Just to confirm and check...

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TM_S13

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Right... I'm about to use the Nattys in my car to give that protection we all like plus that nice looking ride ehehe

I've read most of the threads in this section, but I want to confirm it better...

I get the car ready for Nattys, then use a foam aplicator to apply a thin layer of wax... but how should it be done ?
should it be circular movements, or "wind direction" movements ? back and forward or up and down movements ?

And... what use to be the average time to wait untill I can remove it ?

Oh, almost forgot... should I apply it in sections, like, roof, wait and remove, boot wait and remove, bonnet wait and remove, doors wait and remove, quarter panels wait and remove ?
Or should I apply it on the roof, boot and bonnet, then to each side, front and rear... and then beggin to remove in the same order ?

About the removal... as far as I understood, it shall NOT be in circular moves, but "wind direction" moves right ?

Sorry for all the "noobiness"... lol... :oops:
 

BigLeegr

Token Brute and Chief Bottle Washer
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I use circular motions to apply, but Steve has suggested that "wind movement" is better for waxes/sealants. I guess it's up to your preference. Both can work.
Removal, I go "wind movements" or back and forth. (In case some dust/dirt has settled on the wax as it was drying, I won't leave as noticeable marks.)

Wait time for removal depends on the weather. If it is hot and dry out, you should be able to remove it more quickly than if it was cold and damp out.
Apply a thin layer, let it dry to a haze, then do a test wipe. If it comes off easily, then it should be ready to remove. If it smears, it probably needs more drying time.
Also, the thicker the wax (pretty much any wax) is applied, the longer it takes to dry and the harder it is to remove.

I tend to apply to about 3 sections first, then remove the first, apply to another, remove the second section etc. until the car is done. This way there is some drying time, but less time for dust to blow onto the wax before removal.
 
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Thanks !

What is the average time to wax a car ? its a medium sports car...

better for first try out to do it on the shade right ?

oh...and another thing... the surface should not be too hot right ?
 

BigLeegr

Token Brute and Chief Bottle Washer
Staff member
If you aren't polishing first, nor including washing and drying time, you might be able to get the car waxed in under 10 minutes. This is a fast "rush" job, of course. I've heard of others who take 4 hours to apply 1 coat. If you are able to do it in under 30 minutes, you aren't doing too bad. Again, this isn't accounting for wash, dry, polish or removal.
Removal might also take only 15-20 min. but it depends on how thick you apply the wax. Thin application saves wax, but also allows you to remove it much easier. Thicker just leaves more to remove. You also run the risk of "shadows" if you have uneven application. (darker/lighter runs of paint where the wax was put on thick/missed.)
Cooler always seems to be better, in my experience. (but freezing isn't the best. ;) )

Doing a polish and wax, with moderate cobwebbing, I might be able to do it in 3 hours. Pros, much faster.

The important thing is to be happy with your results. So what if someone can be done in 25 min.? If you like the look you get after 3 hours better, then it should be worth the extra effort.
 
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I just asked that so that I could do my "calculation" of when to start the "job"... lol...

I'm not interested in doing faster than pros or whatsoever...

I simple dind't wanted to star the job and then say something "oh Sh%t its evening allready :S " with the job in middle :D

lol

Thanks for the replys BigLeegr ;)
 
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TM_S13

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Well... just another noob question... sorry about that by the way...

The question this time is...

Is it possible to just wax the car, right after washing/drying it ?
Wash the car, dry it with the MF and then apply the wax ?

I believe the sealant isn't something to apply too much... like... every 4/6 months is the right no ?

Oh by the way... recieved today my nattys and other stuff... the nattys have a nice vanila smell ... hehe and I also do a little experiment with the nattys... on the inside, there was a tiny bit of wax, and I pick it up with my finger...than apply it on a surface(not in the car), with the finger, waited a bit and then removed it with my shirt :X lol... and...

DAMN !!! THAT LOOKS GOOD !! CAN'T WAIT TO DO IT IN MY CAR !!

sorry for the caps :oops: but I'm really satisfied ...
 

BigLeegr

Token Brute and Chief Bottle Washer
Staff member
Yes you can wax without polishing first. Polishing is only to remove marring and oxidation. Once the surface is in good shape, you can just wax it.
Some people wax their cars weekly (after each wash). You certainly shouldn't need to polish that often.
 
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TM_S13

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The car has been painted recently... but the polishing wasn't done properlly... too much swirls :( and it never had wax before... and since the cold is coming as the rain, I want to give, at least, the minimum protection... wich is wax... my car still "sleeps" outside :(... so I can't do a proper job on it with sealant because it won't cure as it should...

Once more, thanks BigLeegr

Edit: Another thing... I have foam aplicators, should I pass them straight on the wax and then in the car ? or should I first pass them on some lubricant ?

and... after the car's been waxed and so on... how should I treat the aplicators, the MF's "towels" etc ?
 

BigLeegr

Token Brute and Chief Bottle Washer
Staff member
Typically there is a 30-90 day waiting period from the time the car is painted that you should wait before applying any wax or sealant. Make sure you have waited until the paint is fully cured.

I spray a little QD on my pad before applying wax. I think it helps prime the pad and gets the initial applications to spread a bit farther. Once the pad is saturated with wax, you shouldn't need to keep spraying the QD.

I spray my pads/applicators with APC and rinse them out. I throw my towels in a dedicated bin to wait until I have enough towels for a full load, then I wash them in hot water. I prespray some APC if the towels have some areas of thicker residue, then wash with detergent. I dry (without fabric softener) a little while and take them out when they are almost dry. This way they seem softer than if they were just hung to dry, but I also don't get the static build up that I would if I let them dry fully in the dryer.
 
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TM_S13

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Well... just waxed my car...and... SWEET !!!!

It gets awsome !! really really good.

Thanks for all the tips. There's still more to learn... but for a first time... it went trully great.

Cheers !
 
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